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Re: FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009
Old 29-07-2009, 07:40 PM   #81
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Creo que no. Interesante pero el blog no funciona ya entonces solo puedo imaginar como funciona. A la primera vista creo que este inventor quiere aprovechar el " Back EMF" o en espanol creo se llama la fuerza motriz electrico de los bobinas , asi solo estan enciendido por la mitad del tiempo. Pero no puede ser , porque las bobinas tambien tiene polos norte y sur. ( en una bobina tradicional) Por lo tanto no entiendo porque hay imanes permanentes en repulsion entre si.

Quizas la bobina es 2 bobinas junto. asi podemos tener el mismo polo en cada extremo y el otro polo en el centro. Pero estos dos bobinas en uno va a cancellar uno al otro. O quizas no...

I don´t think anyone has replicated this as far as i know. Its interesting , but the blog no longer works and so i can only imagine how it is supposed to work. At first glance, it appeared to me that the inventor wanted to use back emf of the coils to draw in the next pair of magnets, and also only have the coil on for half of the time.But looking closer that cannot be correct as the rotating magnets are in repulsion to one another. which would make no sense if it were a standard coil with north and south on each end.

But perhaps if you wound 2 coils together , so that the poles at each end were n with 2 south poles in the centre, everytime you switched it on the 2 coils would cancel out each other, or would they ..?
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Old 29-07-2009, 08:01 PM   #82
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esta misma persona tenia una pagina que se la han sacado o borrado de los http://prometheus-inside.blogspot.com/ ya no esta funcionando o se la sacaron y me alcanzo a escribir que tenia un motor probado

escribo el mensaje que me mando tal cual como lo recibi:

La magia de un magnetomotor el corazon de su funcionamiento erradica en en el escudo que utilisemos para que dos imanes cullos campos magneticos estan
en repelencia, ejerzan la misma funcion que un piston en el interior de un cilindro. yo utilizo una mescla de dos componentes oxido de cobre y niquel ambos
proporsinan un buen escudo magnetico, cuando el rotor comiensa a girar este produse una induccion electrica en el escudo magnetico devido a su contenido
en cobre probocando un aumento de la fuersa del escudo y una reaccion en el campo repulsibo de los imanes.
Da igual la manera en que construyas tu motor, lo importante es el escudo, puede ser redondo, cuadrado ,silindrico,rectangular etc... Como ya te dije el escudo es el corazon.


Los imanes que utilizo son de neodimio cuadrados de 40 x 40 mm cuanto mas potentes mejor para el par de motor, aunque tentras que aumentar la proporcion de cobre sobre niquel en 80/20 en vez de 60/40. Tambien el precio de los mismos ya que aumentan mucho su balor cuanto mas potencia en gauss tengan.


Una manera rapida de comprobar la inportancia de un escudo es haciento una prueba basica que consiste en dos imanes de igual fuerza,
coloca uno frente al otro N/N, ambos intentan separarse ejersiendo una gran fuerza, coloca una lamina de 2mm de grosor y de acero frio entre ellos y veras que
se para esa repulsion. Si uno de ellos estubiera encaxulado en el interior de un cilindro y el otro sujeto, al tirar de la lamina de acero con rapidez el iman del cilindro saldra disparado. Estos es el principio basico de un magneto motos.

ahi te dejo la informacion de un espanol que tiene varios ya trabajando pero tiene problemas judiciales con la electrificadora.
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Re: FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009
Old 29-07-2009, 08:05 PM   #83
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de lo anterior del video aqui pone otros videos con el cual esta trabajando el espanol

http://www.youtube.com/user/inelin2
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Re: FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009
Old 29-07-2009, 09:29 PM   #84
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Bueno gracias por la explicacion , pero estoy confundido con este referencia de escudos que no veo en el debujo. Entiendo que

Si uno de ellos estubiera encaxulado en el interior de un cilindro y el otro sujeto, al tirar de la lamina de acero con rapidez el iman del cilindro saldra disparado. Estos es el principio basico de un magneto motos.

( Ademas hay un motor de este tipo inventado por un ruso creo, un motor modificado de 2 ciclos, con un imane en el piston y otro en la cabeza del motor , con un escudo que entra y sali el cylindro para cortar el campo) sin verificar hasta hora..

Pero no entiendo los debujos con bobinas, no veo escudos

Thanks for the explanation, but i am confused about this reference to magnetic shielding, i understand that..

"if you have 2 magnets in replusion, on on the inside of a tin can and the other fixed. When a stainless steel laminate is removed from between them you will see the magnet on the can fly off. That is the principle behind the operation of the magnetic motor."

( There already exisits an invention using that technique, i think russian, with a modified 2 stroke engine had a shield enter and exit the clinder, a magnet being on the piston and another on the cylinder head in repulsion-)

But i don´t understand the videos as they all appear to have coils in them i cannot see any shields

Can anyone help me out here?
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Old 29-07-2009, 09:48 PM   #85
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En los videos se ven como bobinas enrollado en los imanes estaticos y lo que entiendo que el espanol rodea el iman con este escudo solo deja viendo sus puntas para el choque con los las partes que van a estar girando en el momento que pasa los imanes al frente de los del centro esto genera una energia de choque que hace que los que estan en la parte de empuje o atracion generando un campo mas fuerte en el centro de repulcion y abtracion

toca es hacer las pruebas con tres platos a ver si se da esa primicia de electricidad lo trinca es poder medir esa elecricidad del centro estatico.

Pero una solucion seria como los imanes generan enercia al pasar cerca del cobre es conseguir que esa energia se acumule o se traslade a otra parte del centro estatico para que existe movimiento continuo
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Old 30-07-2009, 10:03 PM   #86
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Default Re: FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009

Craigy can you ask him to speak English or atleast use babelfish to translate and cut and paste?

There is a translation plugin for the forums, but fair bit of work to install it

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Old 02-08-2009, 06:09 PM   #87
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Default Re: FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009

Debes usar un on-line translator, nosotros no va estar muy popular hablando en espanol.

better that you use an online translator,
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:25 PM   #88
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So...are we supposed to filter the thread through translate.google.com?

I think Clanzer's request is a valid one - the site language is english and the poster should translate the material before posting it. Or perhaps setup his own thread in spanish, so the entire thread can be filtered. Mixing languages makes the thread unreadable even if filtered. The language should be consistent throughout the thread.

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Entonces ... se supone que vamos a filtrar el hilo a través de translate.google.com?

Creo Clanzer la petición es válida - el sitio es el idioma Inglés y el cartel debe traducir el material antes de publicar la misma. O tal vez de configuración de su propio hilo en espańol, por lo que todo el hilo se puede filtrar. Mezcla de lenguas hace que el hilo ilegible incluso si se filtra. El lenguaje debe ser coherente en todo el hilo.
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:09 PM   #89
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Probably my fault , i didn´t want to loose a lead to a free energy device so encouraged him to explain. So you are right. Perhaps better if i start a thread in Spanish. Sorry i just don´t want them to get away , lol..
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ahi dejo una recopilacion de experimentos de motores magneticos

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=...fo&view=videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrTitan1976#play/uploads


espero que el espanol saque su motor antes del 21 diciembre del 2012
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Translated that is

Here i will leave a compulation of magnetic motor experiments

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=...fo&view=videos

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrTitan1976#play/uploads
I hope that the spanish guy brings his motor out before 21 December 2012

That second video is a laugh though, he is getting preference for one direction , which i am sure is due to the position of the amature in the motor he is using as a bearing
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como se llama el aparato para mirar el polo de un iman

as the device is called to watch the pole of a magnet
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You can use a Compass, ( Brujula ) to detect the poles, or for more precision a Hall Sensor "Gaussmeter"
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necesito el probador que usa esta persona es este video para mirar cual polo es del iman como se llama ese aparato para mirar polos del iman

Need tester who uses this person is to watch this video which is the magnet pole like device that is called for regarding the magnet poles


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como se llama el aparato para mirar el polo de un iman

as the device is called to watch the pole of a magnet
"What is the name of the apparatus for looking at the pole of one magnet?"

Pole Identifier:

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=EPID

http://www.emovendo.net/magnet/magne...dentifier.html

http://lihe.hisupplier.com/product-8...dentifier.html

http://www.find-magnet.com/other/Pole-Identifier.htm

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