FM Concepts release Video 04/07/2009

CLaNZeR · 04-07-2009, 08:19 PM

Cool Video of it running

You Tube

Local copy, just incase it dissapears from YouTube

http://www.overunity.org.uk/Rotor-St...neticToyV1.avi

I signed their NDA and started replicating last weekend.

As soon as they are happy will I will release my progress.

Cheers

Sean.

bradbacher · 04-07-2009, 08:34 PM

That's pretty cool sean. Where can I learn more about that?

B_rad

CLaNZeR · 04-07-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradbacher

That's pretty cool sean. Where can I learn more about that?

B_rad

Hi Brad

Drop me an email and I will send the inventors email address. You will need to sign an NDA to get the plans.

Cheers

Sean.

gyulasun · 04-07-2009, 10:50 PM

Hi Sean and All,

Seems very convincing... I wonder why there is no sound in the video?

I noticed in the end some of the cylinder magnets are tilted towards the center this surely is needed to defeat the sticky point which should be at / between the tallest and the lowest vertical cylinder members.
Looking forward to replications...

Regards
Gyula

illumineprojects · 04-07-2009, 11:19 PM

OK. Now I'm confused. Yes, I'm new here and have spent the past few weeks reading up on your work, Sean, through various websites, and I've recently joined here. (Great work, btw!)

Anyway, I'm curious how NDA's are effective when the invention has already been placed into the public domain (via YouTube, this site, etc); I know they're worthless in the U.S. after public disclosure this way. Please explain if I misunderstand something.

Did you make this device, Sean (as a prototype for someone else)? Or are you copying it now? Judging by it's rotational direction and the magnet spacing, I assume it's using repulsion... but I still don't see how simply changing the angle of the magnets underneath will make it pass through the proverbial "gate"... it should find equilibrium pretty quickly.

This video does seem suspect to me, as it appears to speed up and slow down several times (you have to watch closely, but it's visually observable). Only one way to find out... I suppose it's time for me to order more cylindrical magnets.

Thanks.

Michael

free.energy · 04-07-2009, 11:29 PM

hello friends, i am new here. can any one send me any info about this. my mail is free.energy.111@gmail.com

thanx

free.energy · 04-07-2009, 11:39 PM

...and Sean how can i get the plans...

illumineprojects · 04-07-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by free.energy

and Sean how can i get the plans

Welcome, free.energy (I'm new here, too). Send an e-mail to Sean so he can provide you the inventor's e-mail address, and you'll need to sign an NDA.

Michael

Harvey · 05-07-2009, 06:19 AM

Have to keep reminding myself that the day comes before the month in the UK ... Looked like April 7, 2009 here in the states :P

Sean, is this video your replication or that of the 'investor' (inventor?) ?

Very interesting either way - looking forward to your progress with that, with interest.

Cheers,

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 10:08 AM

Guys the video shows the Inventors PMM running not mine.

Here are some quick pictures of what I started on last week before seeing any pictures or video or FM Concepts model.

It is obvious I do not have the first set of magnets slanted enough because I was going off a description, but now I have seen more I will get those buggers flatter.

Also since then the dimensions have been released and my magnets may be a little bit too long.

The rubber band was put in place while the glue was drying on the slanted magnets.

Sterling has placed contact details and dimensions here
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Magn...by_FM_Concepts

Cheers

Sean.

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 10:23 AM

Picture Album up for the FM Concepts PMM

http://www.overunity.org.uk/album.php?albumid=4

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 01:26 PM

Have decided to make a new rotor and have just ordered 20 of the 8mm*20mm Neos.

So will not be till next weekend that I can publish results.

Off to cut out the rotor and stator now we have exact measurements

illumineprojects · 05-07-2009, 03:31 PM

From peswiki.com (Sterling's post):

[FM states] "The key is: convert the repulsion in magnetic gate into attraction (great angle), decrease the attraction when the magnetic field is diminished (small angle), and restart the repulsion again in the ramp."

Interesting...

Michael

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 04:16 PM

Well parts all cut out and assembled.

Not alot to go wrong with this one really

Couple of pictures and quick video.

You Tube

Now will have to wait till next weekend to glue in the Magnets.

Cheers

Sean.

Upuaut · 05-07-2009, 06:04 PM

Hello,

I just registered because of this very promising looking magnetic motor attempt.
Just one little question. What Neos are you using (N??)? Of cause only if it´s not against the NDA. Thanks in advance and good luck with this project.

Upuaut

ctglabs · 05-07-2009, 08:46 PM

Hi Sean,

I am sure you know as you have the plans and the photos, but the inventor appears to be using an alluminium? disc for the magnet rotor instead of plexi glass? Are you trying with plexi first? I wonder if the metal, or the eddy currents have any effect which may be missed by using plexi?

Regards,

Dave.

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctglabs

Hi Sean,

I am sure you know as you have the plans and the photos, but the inventor appears to be using an alluminium? disc for the magnet rotor instead of plexi glass? Are you trying with plexi first? I wonder if the metal, or the eddy currents have any effect which may be missed by using plexi

Hi Dave

The inventor is using Stainless Steel 5mm thick disk. But states that any non magnetic material will produce the same result.

This is more a method of getting past the sticky spot with the arrangement of the array, than the materials and sizes.

But take your point on eddy currents mate

Cheers

Sean.

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Upuaut

Hello,

I just registered because of this very promising looking magnetic motor attempt.
Just one little question. What Neos are you using (N??)? Of cause only if it´s not against the NDA. Thanks in advance and good luck with this project.

Upuaut

Hi and welcome to the forums

I ordered my 8mm x 20mm from a UK supplier. They are N42 Neo's

This N rating has not been specified by FM Concepts, but it is easy enough to alter the air gap between Rotor and Stator if it matters that much.

Cheers

Sean.

CLaNZeR · 05-07-2009, 11:06 PM

Craigy having problems uploading to his channel, so here is his progress report.

Shows replications can be done not using a CNC machine.

You Tube

Omnibus · 07-07-2009, 03:53 PM

Hi Sean,

Great job, mate. Could you please post the youtube active links.. I'm in Europe right now and only have an iPhone with me which won't allow me to open the vids. Thanks. Will try to get my laptop going soon and will join the discussion properly. Good luck.

P.S. Is it possible to post the text of the NDA?